World Champs
World Champs
It seems that the weed was quite a big problem at the Holland Beker a week ago. Hope they get it sorted out for the Worlds. The furnace-like weather in Europe recently won't have helped.
https://hollandbeker.nl/important-notic ... ta-course/
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New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
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fatsculler
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I wonder if this is a taste of things to come and the 8 will become a "doubling-up" boat across all federationsporsche5k wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:52 pm New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
The older I get, the better I was
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It is a plausible solution to reducing athlete numbers at the Olympics as well.fatsculler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 5:27 pmI wonder if this is a taste of things to come and the 8 will become a "doubling-up" boat across all federationsporsche5k wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:52 pm New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
1x 2x 2- 4-
then some combo races the 8+
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10 boats is surely a low for New Zealand?fatsculler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 5:27 pmI wonder if this is a taste of things to come and the 8 will become a "doubling-up" boat across all federationsporsche5k wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:52 pm New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
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Chris A wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 6:14 am10 boats is surely a low for New Zealand?fatsculler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 5:27 pmI wonder if this is a taste of things to come and the 8 will become a "doubling-up" boat across all federationsporsche5k wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:52 pm New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
They only had 8 boats last year
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Seems like it’s going this way, the coaches probably know this. GB is resisting and won’t give up the 8.sandor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 6:04 pmIt is a plausible solution to reducing athlete numbers at the Olympics as well.fatsculler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 5:27 pmI wonder if this is a taste of things to come and the 8 will become a "doubling-up" boat across all federationsporsche5k wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:52 pm New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
1x 2x 2- 4-
then some combo races the 8+
I think overall world champs have gotten significantly less competitive since 2021. NZ’s numbers are way down - large exodus after Tokyo, AUS is down in the dumps but getting a bit better this year Paris was unreal bad, Canada can hardly field a team and keep a CEO, Germany and NL are playing coaching musical chairs, Russia has been totally out of it until now, Ireland got rid of the reason they were doing well cause of feelings, Serbia is tiny, Croatia is tiny. Italy, SUI, and Romania are probably the ones trending well.
I’m worried about the sport.
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Seems like it’s going this way, the coaches probably know this. GB is resisting and won’t give up the 8.
I think overall world champs have gotten significantly less competitive since 2021. NZ’s numbers are way down - large exodus after Tokyo, AUS is down in the dumps but getting a bit better this year Paris was unreal bad, Canada can hardly field a team and keep a CEO, Germany and NL are playing coaching musical chairs, Russia has been totally out of it until now, Ireland got rid of the reason they were doing well cause of feelings, Serbia is tiny, Croatia is tiny. Italy, SUI, and Romania are probably the ones trending well.
I’m worried about the sport.
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Number of boats in finals at the World Championships over last few cycles. Its not perfect data on No. of entries as if there are 7/13/19 entries etc 1 gets eliminated and doesn't have a final. Definite increases in Olympic Qualifying years and some lows when WC is far from Europe and expensive.
2009 2010 2011 2013 2014 2015 2017 2018 2019 2022 2023 2025
M1x 21 23 34 30 31 41 40 31 42 34 45 30
M2- 13 14 24 21 20 27 18 23 28 18 26 21
M2x 18 15 22 16 23 28 20 23 31 24 24 18
M4- 16 12 22 16 17 21 15 19 22 19 16 18
M4x 13 10 20 18 20 16 15 12 17 17 17 14
M8+ 10 11 13 10 12 12 12 9 10 11 10 10
W1x 18 13 18 17 27 33 22 22 37 22 31 18
W2- 15 10 16 14 15 21 11 15 24 15 21 15
W2x 13 11 17 14 22 24 14 18 21 17 19 12
W4- 6 4 5 6 10 5 12 12 16 12 14 12
W4x 8 11 11 11 12 11 9 15 12 14 12 12
W8+ 8 9 8 9 11 10 8 8 11 6 8 10
Seems like it’s going this way, the coaches probably know this. GB is resisting and won’t give up the 8.
I think overall world champs have gotten significantly less competitive since 2021. NZ’s numbers are way down - large exodus after Tokyo, AUS is down in the dumps but getting a bit better this year Paris was unreal bad, Canada can hardly field a team and keep a CEO, Germany and NL are playing coaching musical chairs, Russia has been totally out of it until now, Ireland got rid of the reason they were doing well cause of feelings, Serbia is tiny, Croatia is tiny. Italy, SUI, and Romania are probably the ones trending well.
I’m worried about the sport.
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Number of boats in finals at the World Championships over last few cycles. Its not perfect data on No. of entries as if there are 7/13/19 entries etc 1 gets eliminated and doesn't have a final. Definite increases in Olympic Qualifying years and some lows when WC is far from Europe and expensive.
2009 2010 2011 2013 2014 2015 2017 2018 2019 2022 2023 2025
M1x 21 23 34 30 31 41 40 31 42 34 45 30
M2- 13 14 24 21 20 27 18 23 28 18 26 21
M2x 18 15 22 16 23 28 20 23 31 24 24 18
M4- 16 12 22 16 17 21 15 19 22 19 16 18
M4x 13 10 20 18 20 16 15 12 17 17 17 14
M8+ 10 11 13 10 12 12 12 9 10 11 10 10
W1x 18 13 18 17 27 33 22 22 37 22 31 18
W2- 15 10 16 14 15 21 11 15 24 15 21 15
W2x 13 11 17 14 22 24 14 18 21 17 19 12
W4- 6 4 5 6 10 5 12 12 16 12 14 12
W4x 8 11 11 11 12 11 9 15 12 14 12 12
W8+ 8 9 8 9 11 10 8 8 11 6 8 10
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Men's and Women's boats showing competitiveness of A final Pos 2-5 vs Gold Medalist. I dont use 6th place as often they throw in the towel in last few strokes and paddle in.
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This is the number of finals made by countries over the last 3 cycles at the World Championships in current Olympic boat classes. Definitely some countries on the up (IRL, ESP, LTU, SUI) or down (RSA, UKR, GER & CZE).
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And if the A final appearances are grouped by Olympic cycle and include WC and OG A finals in current Olympic boat classes (i.e. no 2+, 4+. LM, LW)
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But looking at the under 23 entries it seems that GBR will stick its finger in its ears and shut its eyes about mixed boats until everybody else is doing it.Faster-n-faster wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2026 9:13 pmSeems like it’s going this way, the coaches probably know this. GB is resisting and won’t give up the 8.sandor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 6:04 pmIt is a plausible solution to reducing athlete numbers at the Olympics as well.fatsculler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 5:27 pmI wonder if this is a taste of things to come and the 8 will become a "doubling-up" boat across all federationsporsche5k wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2026 1:52 pm New Zeland Worlds roster. They are doubling their 4- into the 8+
https://rowingnz.kiwi/new-zealand-rowin ... pionships/
1x 2x 2- 4-
then some combo races the 8+
I think overall world champs have gotten significantly less competitive since 2021. NZ’s numbers are way down - large exodus after Tokyo, AUS is down in the dumps but getting a bit better this year Paris was unreal bad, Canada can hardly field a team and keep a CEO, Germany and NL are playing coaching musical chairs, Russia has been totally out of it until now, Ireland got rid of the reason they were doing well cause of feelings, Serbia is tiny, Croatia is tiny. Italy, SUI, and Romania are probably the ones trending well.
I’m worried about the sport.
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Until such time as mixed events are officially on the Olympic programme then GB won’t bother. As I’ve said many times before, the GB rowing team starts and ends with the Olympic programme
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Well it certainly will be by the time these U23s are seniors.fatsculler wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2026 3:10 pm Until such time as mixed events are officially on the Olympic programme then GB won’t bother. As I’ve said many times before, the GB rowing team starts and ends with the Olympic programme