NSR I; Sixty Day Warning

[Long & Low]

We have had a little bit of info/rumors/speculation regarding the scullers and the Non-Qual Trials. But very little about the pair.

This Sunday is January 15. Sixty days until NSR and the pairs race.

Are all the (would be) pair rowers still in camp in Chula or CRC? Has anyone broken loose to focus on the pair privately? Is this the old deal where, if you are going to get cut, you want to get cut as soon as possible so you have time to go to work in a small boat?

Players?

Predictions?

[dropnsend]

One pair that is training outside of the CRC and Chula groups is Ian Silveria and Jason Read. While it might be tough for them to be training with JR coaching at Temple and Ian still enrolled at Princeton I'll be interested to see how they stack up. Both are very talented oarsmen with JR's resume speaking for itself and Silveria representing the US four times in the last five years (2 Junior, 2 U-23) including stroking the JM8+ to a bronze in 2008 and the BM4x to a 4th place finish this summer.

[Long & Low]

I just read the outline for the selection posted on another thread. A couple of the big boats were supposed to be working with reduced rosters by Jan. 2. The other is supposed to be down by the end of this month. And once your focus turns to a pair or 2x you can't stay at Chula. It seems we should see some more small boats form up soon

[Long & Low]

Less than sixty days to NSR 1 and Ken J. Is the only one signed up in the 1x. Is that his way of declaring early. Who has the best shot of giving him a run for his money?

My pick for the 2- is Jake C. and whomever rows with him?

[hbh1636]

There's no certain information yet on what happens to the guys in the 4- camp who don't make Selection. If they're sent off earlier than the deadline and head to Berkeley, I'd imagine some of them are totally capable of making the eight; Teti will welcome more top end guys any day. If they choose to head off and trial the pair then I'd say a combination from that group is most likely to take the slot come trials.

I just looked back at the selection outline and it seems that by next week we will likely have a better idea of who is going to come out of the 4- camp as Tim has to narrow them down to at most 6 on Jan 30. It seems likely that he'll want to unofficially select the 4- a little earlier (not just because a pool of 6 seems a little awkward for long term training) so we'll hopefully see a pair or two come out soon.

Does anyone know who is in the 4- camp right now? Based on looking around CRC it seems like Cole, Gault, Newlin, Stafford, Lanzone, Rummel, and Walsh are elsewhere.

[2CiiX21]

What does the 4x camp look like?

Anderson
Miller
Ochal???? or is he now sweeping??
Stitt????
Piermarini
Hovey

4- group sounds really solid. Lets hope guys #5 and beyond aren't jerked around for too long...

At this stage I'd say the boat we're least likely to qualify is the M2x. If I were in the mix, but unlikely to get a shot at the 4- or 8+, I'd be going after the pair...

[LoreMaster1]

I've heard that many guys are actually contending for both the 4- and the 4x (e.g. Ochal and Stitt), since both camps are in Chula. It seems like the 4- would be the priority, and scullers who don't make that can go for the 4x if they choose to. I'd be very surprised if Teti did not welcome the remaining guys to 8+ camp.

[Moose]

As far as I know Gault, Cole, Lanzone, Newlin, Cornelius, Rummel, and Osborne are all down in chula for the 4-. Seems like the rest of the athletes have been making their way up to Berkeley.

Saw this today:http://www.usrowing.org/NationalTeams/OlympicSeniorNationalTeam/SrNTCamps/12OKCMensCamp.aspx

This was kind of surprising to me-- there are decent guys that will be left out of the 4-, and there's tons potentially good pairs that are going to get cut from the 8+. Trying out for the 8, you have the Peczak/Stangel pair, the Winklevosses, the #2 and #3 pairs from the West Coast speed order, and a number of other people who have competed in the 2- at world championships. None of these guys have made a US 8+ in the past, so even though there's a new coach, I doubt they're frontrunners for selection to the 8+.

It seems that any good trials entry in the 2- is going to originate from people at these camps that see the writing on the wall and want to make a pair before they get cut in April or May. I don't see a mass exodus of all these people to OKC where Volp can play match-maker. I just hope that Teti and MacLaren recognize the importance of early decision making for the trials boats and don't string along guys that they know aren't going to make the big boats.

[lt.wolf]

What about the ladies ....it will be interesting to see who stays in the eight ....will Davies find her way back in and push someone out . Will the scullers stay scullers or will we see some of them shuffle about . The single will be open as Stone is now looking at the double.

The ladies have more medal chances than the men it is just a matter of who sits where and when.

[LoreMaster1]

I don't think Volp will even be in OKC for the 2-/2x dates listed - that's when selection for the LM4- will be done in Chula. What's going on here?

[Moose]

What about the ladies ....it will be interesting to see who stays in the eight ....will Davies find her way back in and push someone out . Will the scullers stay scullers or will we see some of them shuffle about . The single will be open as Stone is now looking at the double.

The ladies have more medal chances than the men it is just a matter of who sits where and when.

Do you think that the women would possibly stack the quad and/or the pair to go for extra gold, and trust that the eight can win anyway?

[2CiiX21]

Stone is going after the 2x?

[hbh1636]

What about the ladies ....it will be interesting to see who stays in the eight ....will Davies find her way back in and push someone out . Will the scullers stay scullers or will we see some of them shuffle about . The single will be open as Stone is now looking at the double.

The ladies have more medal chances than the men it is just a matter of who sits where and when.

Do you think that the women would possibly stack the quad and/or the pair to go for extra gold, and trust that the eight can win anyway?

Canadians are too close to be comfortable in the eight

[lt.wolf]

One would think the eight is a solid cog and can change a seat or three and be ok. I still say they will be pressed very very hard in the final race. That is just based on watching last years worlds final.....remember the USA men from 97 thru 2000. The British took them out after Mike played with the line up to much.

Of course Stone would think about the double , it is qualified .

[LoreMaster1]

Of course Stone would think about the double , it is qualified .

Uh, no it's not.