2012 USA Men's 8

[Moose]

I hear he's planning on switching Ursula in for Giuseppe Lanzone. Korzeniowski sold Teti on the idea... it's to be announced on Friday. You heard it here first.

[LoreMaster1]

Lore I think you are wrong on two things. 1 - I think you are misreading the rules. Someone can come out, but they just can't go into another event. 2 - That is not even remotely the dumbest thing I have ever posted.

Okay, I'll admit that #2 got a smile out of me. I still don't see the lineup changing. The guys who were close to making the boat and didn't are now scattered to the winds in various pairs combos - CRC, Princeton, even OKC. Everyone is betting on a different horse now than the hope that Teti doesn't like one of the eight guys he already picked.

[lt.wolf]

What are the actual rules.

[Der Milchshake]

Qualification Regattas states that rowers qualifying in a certain event at one of the
three Continental Qualification Regattas or the Final Qualification Regatta in
[b]Lucerne must participate in that event (“mandatory event[/b]”) if they participate at the
Olympic Games. These rowers may also participate in another event in which their

The only way they can come out is if they pull themselves from the line up or a Medical Doctor says they have to come out even then it is very unlikely (think Sebasian Bea in 2000 he was injured and still rowed) also use 2000 as an example for when a boat qualified at in Switzerland and couldn't be changed (Men's 4-) If Mike could have switched he would have put Dave Simon in the four and Mike Wherly (sp) back into the eight, but you can't do that. The guys that qualified the eight MUST row in the eight unless they withdraw themselves not a coach.

Oh yea, Coach Teti thank you for qualifing the boat.

I love the comments to get people really going, but please add a line of congrats.

[Der Milchshake]

Also, where are all the people that are in love with Andrew Campbell....guess he isn't the savior of lightweight rowing this year. Camp boat did it vs. the trial boat with what everyone said was our two best lightweights.

Thems the breaks. Tough racing regardless and there is no easy category. I hope that Will and Andrew keep training as with a few more races under their belt I think they could be ok.

[Stewie Griffin Should Cox]

Also, where are all the people that are in love with Andrew Campbell....guess he isn't the savior of lightweight rowing this year. Camp boat did it vs. the trial boat with what everyone said was our two best lightweights.

Thems the breaks. Tough racing regardless and there is no easy category. I hope that Will and Andrew keep training as with a few more races under their belt I think they could be ok.

I am disappointed for Andrew. But hes exceptionally young for the event. He still has the potential to be a real player in Rio and I think he will do. The Lwt 4- did very well. We will see what happens in London.

Its wrong to compare time in the eight. As much as the French probably did not go to the line I would bet the US eight was playing defence even if not consciously. In truth though Teti does have some work to do on the eight technically. That eight is not a patch on the technique in the O4 eight. And up against the German machine at the moment will struggle. They is time but its pretty obvious the guys come from different programs and that there is no commonly understood US technique as there is in say, GB Ger or AUS

[shinkster]

Teti is a monster. The 8 will do well. Medal? Not sure. Racing at the World Cup would be a mistake right now. Racing Germany after having two intense races this week could spell disaster and confidence is a precious commodity this summer. This country owes Teti big time. He could put his wife in that boat for all I care. I thought his row2k interview and how he described his selection process made a ton of sense and it is so simple in retrospect but the genius is in the simplicity. And he conveys his thoughts very clearly for a guy from Philly. But to keep guys like Inman, Coppola, Walsh etc out of the 8 with so much on the line takes some cajones. Wow.

[Stewie Griffin Should Cox]

Teti is a monster. The 8 will do well. Medal? Not sure. Racing at the World Cup would be a mistake right now. Racing Germany after having two intense races this week could spell disaster and confidence is a precious commodity this summer. This country owes Teti big time. He could put his wife in that boat for all I care. I thought his row2k interview and how he described his selection process made a ton of sense and it is so simple in retrospect but the genius is in the simplicity. And he conveys his thoughts very clearly for a guy from Philly. But to keep guys like Inman, Coppola, Walsh etc out of the 8 with so much on the line takes some cajones. Wow.

I'd race it. The guys are on a high, and they have an excuse to lose and would get a marker in the sand. They will still be sharp and can go home and prep

[t_h]

Anyone find a full-length video of the race? Link please!

[crewu]

I'd race it. The guys are on a high, and they have an excuse to lose and would get a marker in the sand. They will still be sharp and can go home and prep

no way would I race it. The eight did what they came to do now get back and focus on getting the training cycle right for London. Let the Germans wonder if there is a new dark horse in the field but no reason to show them our true current speed.

[tpj]

Also, where are all the people that are in love with Andrew Campbell....guess he isn't the savior of lightweight rowing this year. Camp boat did it vs. the trial boat with what everyone said was our two best lightweights.

I guess I'm one. It didn't turn out like we all hoped - but those guys put up an amazing effort and speed. I can only imagine how they must feel after expending so many resources on getting to this point only to come up short in the last 500m. Let's just all hope that this experience adds fuel to the fire for those two. I'm guessing singles trials are going to be pretty tough this year.

On another note, it would be an interesting step to see if we could at least get the top lightweights in one place so a priority boat and selection could be determined (LM4- or LM2x) based on the best available people. Due to the extremely accommodating nature of the US system, it is always an open possibility that a faster boat could have been put together with existing resources.

[lt.wolf]

AC is getting there and he and Will proved to be a pretty good combo considering the short time they spent together. The light 4 got their spot and that saved the lights for this cycle . Also note the year is not over AC could still roll with the u-23 and senior light singles and walk away with a few medals. Not too shabby for a 20 year old .

[Stewie Griffin Should Cox]

I'd race it. The guys are on a high, and they have an excuse to lose and would get a marker in the sand. They will still be sharp and can go home and prep

no way would I race it. The eight did what they came to do now get back and focus on getting the training cycle right for London. Let the Germans wonder if there is a new dark horse in the field but no reason to show them our true current speed.

Thats not how Germans think.

[completeIgnorance]

I read the rules differently for this FQR. They state "......must participate in that event if they participate at the Olympic Games". Can't USRowing replace some of the rowers and those replaced will simply not participate at the Olympics? They also read that they may participate in another boat that qualified, in 2000 couldn't Teti have rowed Wherly in the 8 and also the 4. Seems that would have been within the rules.

Just wondering. I would like to hear an answer from someone more official.

[Stewie Griffin Should Cox]

I read the rules differently for this FQR. They state "......must participate in that event if they participate at the Olympic Games". Can't USRowing replace some of the rowers and those replaced will simply not participate at the Olympics? They also read that they may participate in another boat that qualified, in 2000 couldn't Teti have rowed Wherly in the 8 and also the 4. Seems that would have been within the rules.

Just wondering. I would like to hear an answer from someone more official.

I have to say, read that way, yes it does seem that you could change someone and NOT take them at all. That would avoid the "Ringers in the boat" scenario.

It certainly used to be the case that only a Medical Reason could see the boat changed. This seems to have changed.