To most of those questions I would answer yes. Do I know why Ursula rows the way she does? Yes, because you taught her. I am certainly not being critical of that and never have been as regards your technical input. I have always said you have a good eye and I am interested in your use of the machine if not sold on the fact that it is a "game changing invention"
My comment was that if you look at Ursula's movement of the seat towards the feet it is very constant. Or far more so that the video of both yourself and your masters erg rower. It was an observation. In particular the gentlement you have on your site now have a VERY two part recovery, slow and then a sharp "race" to the catch. You fit somewhere in between, but there is still a noticable accelleration into the catch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... lrr6UnW1I#
(Technique observation apart, a great result)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ckl8jy4 ... re=related
why do you think that is Carlos? You tell me and I'll give you my thoughts
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by Stewie Griffin Should Cox on Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:40 am
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:23 am
Stewie,
First I want to apologize for my answer to you yesterday. I want to make rowing better and I'm working on it and sometimes it makes me sad to see how much people work against what I'm trying to do. I developed RP3 from nothing with the original inventor before he died and I believe on this machine as a tool for rowers and coaches. This machine exists because of Cas Rekers, Ursula Grobler and me.
The first thing I want to do is answer your statement about: "not sold on the fact that it is a "game changing invention""
Please watch these 4 videos and see what I think:
www.carlosdinares.com
a) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... ng-the-1x/
b) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... in-rowing/
c) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... the-water/
d) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... wers-body/\
Stewie I REALLY believe RP3 can really help americans.
I will work on my answer to the rest of your post.
Carlos Dinares
www.carlosdinares.com
First I want to apologize for my answer to you yesterday. I want to make rowing better and I'm working on it and sometimes it makes me sad to see how much people work against what I'm trying to do. I developed RP3 from nothing with the original inventor before he died and I believe on this machine as a tool for rowers and coaches. This machine exists because of Cas Rekers, Ursula Grobler and me.
The first thing I want to do is answer your statement about: "not sold on the fact that it is a "game changing invention""
Please watch these 4 videos and see what I think:
www.carlosdinares.com
a) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... ng-the-1x/
b) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... in-rowing/
c) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... the-water/
d) http://www.carlosdinares.com/carloss-ti ... wers-body/\
Stewie I REALLY believe RP3 can really help americans.
I will work on my answer to the rest of your post.
Carlos Dinares
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by southernrower on Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:30 pm
Carlos- I am not a detractor and enjoy you contributions. But... please no more vids of the RP3. I get it. You are a believer and think it helps. And I am sure you are right. But I also thing that Stewie is right in asking for a little more info than just a couple of vids.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:25 pm
Stewie,
About Brandon. He has rowed on the RP3 for 6 weeks. He has never rowed on a boat on the water and has no idea at this moment of what can make a boat stop or accelerate, neither the effects of his 220 pounds going up and down. As you can understand with 6 weeks and 50 minutes a day and 5 to 6 days a week and a clear goal that was to score well on a 2km on the Concept2 I could care less about the way he rushes to the cash or not as long as he catches the load and gets strong for the test. These were the things I did care:
1) Efficient Lenght of stroke with real connection (curve always going out and big, not shutting the slide, strong on the core)
2) Good Posture.
3) Good acceleration from catch to release.
5) Development of fitness for a 2km test playing with different levels of lactate.
The goal to score well on the C2 was like with Ursula. Control the rate, Good lenght of stroke, good power x stroke and plenty of rest from stroke to stroke. Simple.
About me rowing the RP3. Why do Ursula has an even Speed and not me?
My catch on the water is better than the one she has and the better catch you have the more you can rush to the catch without upseting the stern. I do like to use the rush to the catch to accelerate the boat and it helps me on the timing to get my weight on the blade. I row like that on the water too. I spend my time at the finish to let the boat run and rush to the catch, this is the way I get the rythm at low rates. At higher rates my rowing changes.
Ursula had a spetial way of rowing that was hard to follow when this video was taken because she didn't really spend time anywhere. It was good for the single and very continuous rowing but hard to follow for a Team boat. This is the reason why we rowed both of us a lot the 2x to help her feel rythm with the help of more power. The more power the easier is to feel rythm. She got better and now rows with more rythm than on this video moving a little different on the recovery.
The key factors I teach when we row the RP3 or the water are:
1) Prepare your body parts early on the recovery to don't upset the boat at the catch. Row horizontal and produce good leverage with your body weight from catch to release.
2) Posture and real lenght of stroke.
3) Always pushing the curve out to be always fully connected and always producing acceleration.
4) Good timing at the catch and release to change direction minimizing the negative forces to the boat. On the rowperfect those negative forces will make you work extra on the recovery and your score will deteriorate because of this extra energy used when you need to rest.
There is plenty of variables, plenty to discuss and plenty of ways of doing this. I'm not starting a debate on what is good or not. There are several ways to move on the recovery that make a boat go fast. There are different power curves shapes that make rowers go fast. These curves are different for different boat speeds. The peak force positions and K factors also change depending on the boat class and the rate. There are different ways to move on the recovery, different rythms, and there are all good as long as all the rowers commit to it and follow the principles of rowing:
1) Lenght of stroke and power- Different at low rates than high rates and different on the water or the RP3 (effect of the blade efficiency- read Valery Kleshnev).
2) Minimize the negative forces on recovery and use of energy.
Efficency of the stroke, of rowing.
I hope this helps,
Carlos Dinares
About Brandon. He has rowed on the RP3 for 6 weeks. He has never rowed on a boat on the water and has no idea at this moment of what can make a boat stop or accelerate, neither the effects of his 220 pounds going up and down. As you can understand with 6 weeks and 50 minutes a day and 5 to 6 days a week and a clear goal that was to score well on a 2km on the Concept2 I could care less about the way he rushes to the cash or not as long as he catches the load and gets strong for the test. These were the things I did care:
1) Efficient Lenght of stroke with real connection (curve always going out and big, not shutting the slide, strong on the core)
2) Good Posture.
3) Good acceleration from catch to release.
5) Development of fitness for a 2km test playing with different levels of lactate.
The goal to score well on the C2 was like with Ursula. Control the rate, Good lenght of stroke, good power x stroke and plenty of rest from stroke to stroke. Simple.
About me rowing the RP3. Why do Ursula has an even Speed and not me?
My catch on the water is better than the one she has and the better catch you have the more you can rush to the catch without upseting the stern. I do like to use the rush to the catch to accelerate the boat and it helps me on the timing to get my weight on the blade. I row like that on the water too. I spend my time at the finish to let the boat run and rush to the catch, this is the way I get the rythm at low rates. At higher rates my rowing changes.
Ursula had a spetial way of rowing that was hard to follow when this video was taken because she didn't really spend time anywhere. It was good for the single and very continuous rowing but hard to follow for a Team boat. This is the reason why we rowed both of us a lot the 2x to help her feel rythm with the help of more power. The more power the easier is to feel rythm. She got better and now rows with more rythm than on this video moving a little different on the recovery.
The key factors I teach when we row the RP3 or the water are:
1) Prepare your body parts early on the recovery to don't upset the boat at the catch. Row horizontal and produce good leverage with your body weight from catch to release.
2) Posture and real lenght of stroke.
3) Always pushing the curve out to be always fully connected and always producing acceleration.
4) Good timing at the catch and release to change direction minimizing the negative forces to the boat. On the rowperfect those negative forces will make you work extra on the recovery and your score will deteriorate because of this extra energy used when you need to rest.
There is plenty of variables, plenty to discuss and plenty of ways of doing this. I'm not starting a debate on what is good or not. There are several ways to move on the recovery that make a boat go fast. There are different power curves shapes that make rowers go fast. These curves are different for different boat speeds. The peak force positions and K factors also change depending on the boat class and the rate. There are different ways to move on the recovery, different rythms, and there are all good as long as all the rowers commit to it and follow the principles of rowing:
1) Lenght of stroke and power- Different at low rates than high rates and different on the water or the RP3 (effect of the blade efficiency- read Valery Kleshnev).
2) Minimize the negative forces on recovery and use of energy.
Efficency of the stroke, of rowing.
I hope this helps,
Carlos Dinares
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by Stewie Griffin Should Cox on Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:10 am
So Brandon does show that left to their own devices, an athlete is just as capable of developing a major technical flaw on the RP3 as any other ergo. This acceleration into the catch is prominent in many videos of many people on RP3's.
To answer my own question......
This last 3rd acceleration is a classic error of rowing and is caused by two things usually.
1. An inability to balance the boat over the feet and out to the catch hence a desire to get out and place quickly for a security sense.
2. A lack of flexibility. Ask these people to row the first quarter exercise or to sit paused at 3/4 slide and then move to the full length position and they cant. With momentum they can but from a stationary position they cant and that is flexibility in hip flexors and ankles etc. The reaction therefore is to charge the last third to create the energy to effectively force the legs to compress. The C2 does disguise this problem in normal rowing because it is stationary and the body has kinetic energy on the roll but simply by asking the athlete to do a first 1/4 drill (which they cant fully compress on) highlights the issue.
The alternative to rushing this last third to compress is sitting very upright and reducing body swing over. You also see this a lot on RP3 videos (and in the boat).
Nothing else you speak of is unique to the RP3. They are the fundementals of rowing and have been taught for years. Yes you produced an excellent athlete with strong technique and understanding of the basics in Ursula but Brandon demonstrates that the RP3 is not infallible. His rhythm would be very uncomfortable to row with and slow in boat terms and furthermore he pivots onto the catch with body swing, which is established as a no 1 way to get a lower spinal injury either in the boat or out.
The point is
All of the things you speak of above are achievable with coaching on any ergo or on the water. I think the key component you are missing in the RP3 sell is ...........You. (Yes thats a compliement) I think you use the RP3 to coach you ideas but effectively without your imput the RP3 is no more the "Game changing" item.
As regards your catch? well to be frank I think the rush and place quickly creates a feeling of speed and connectivity but is not really where one should go. Less accomplished scullers (not you) do this to create comfort over the feet where the boat is easier to balance. The last 3rd of the roll, squared up, blades off, controlled and placing as the wheels stop is the real skill. If I may be so bold, as a critique of your stroke, you have a wonderful open finish position but I feel you approach the catch with bent arms and you do reach at the last second with a very rounded back and closed chest. Again there is acceleration.
I will concede it is possible to row one rhythm low rate and another higher, as the Romanian women used to do an acclerated approach to the catch in training low rate high power but actually row with a more constant slide pace at speed.
Your comment regarding the RP3 confuses me. My Olympic double sat on a Rowperfect right back in 99 in Vesta boat club in London and took some tips from Harry Mahon. My gym had one next to the C2's in 2001-2002. Have you been developing it that long? Because it looked pretty similar.
Here is what I don't get about you Carlos. You bring a huge amount to the table from a coaching perspective. For most of the year the 2x looked good, Ursula is brilliant and you contributed much/most to that. Technically you can outcoach 95% of people. Why did you create such a train wreck of the program last year? It was almost like you had a desire to self destruct.
To answer my own question......
This last 3rd acceleration is a classic error of rowing and is caused by two things usually.
1. An inability to balance the boat over the feet and out to the catch hence a desire to get out and place quickly for a security sense.
2. A lack of flexibility. Ask these people to row the first quarter exercise or to sit paused at 3/4 slide and then move to the full length position and they cant. With momentum they can but from a stationary position they cant and that is flexibility in hip flexors and ankles etc. The reaction therefore is to charge the last third to create the energy to effectively force the legs to compress. The C2 does disguise this problem in normal rowing because it is stationary and the body has kinetic energy on the roll but simply by asking the athlete to do a first 1/4 drill (which they cant fully compress on) highlights the issue.
The alternative to rushing this last third to compress is sitting very upright and reducing body swing over. You also see this a lot on RP3 videos (and in the boat).
Nothing else you speak of is unique to the RP3. They are the fundementals of rowing and have been taught for years. Yes you produced an excellent athlete with strong technique and understanding of the basics in Ursula but Brandon demonstrates that the RP3 is not infallible. His rhythm would be very uncomfortable to row with and slow in boat terms and furthermore he pivots onto the catch with body swing, which is established as a no 1 way to get a lower spinal injury either in the boat or out.
The point is
carlos dinares wrote:) Prepare your body parts early on the recovery to don't upset the boat at the catch. Row horizontal and produce good leverage with your body weight from catch to release.
2) Posture and real length of stroke.
3) Always pushing the curve out to be always fully connected and always producing acceleration.
4) Good timing at the catch and release to change direction minimizing the negative forces to the boat. On the rowperfect those negative forces will make you work extra on the recovery and your score will deteriorate because of this extra energy used when you need to rest.
All of the things you speak of above are achievable with coaching on any ergo or on the water. I think the key component you are missing in the RP3 sell is ...........You. (Yes thats a compliement) I think you use the RP3 to coach you ideas but effectively without your imput the RP3 is no more the "Game changing" item.
As regards your catch? well to be frank I think the rush and place quickly creates a feeling of speed and connectivity but is not really where one should go. Less accomplished scullers (not you) do this to create comfort over the feet where the boat is easier to balance. The last 3rd of the roll, squared up, blades off, controlled and placing as the wheels stop is the real skill. If I may be so bold, as a critique of your stroke, you have a wonderful open finish position but I feel you approach the catch with bent arms and you do reach at the last second with a very rounded back and closed chest. Again there is acceleration.
I will concede it is possible to row one rhythm low rate and another higher, as the Romanian women used to do an acclerated approach to the catch in training low rate high power but actually row with a more constant slide pace at speed.
Your comment regarding the RP3 confuses me. My Olympic double sat on a Rowperfect right back in 99 in Vesta boat club in London and took some tips from Harry Mahon. My gym had one next to the C2's in 2001-2002. Have you been developing it that long? Because it looked pretty similar.
Here is what I don't get about you Carlos. You bring a huge amount to the table from a coaching perspective. For most of the year the 2x looked good, Ursula is brilliant and you contributed much/most to that. Technically you can outcoach 95% of people. Why did you create such a train wreck of the program last year? It was almost like you had a desire to self destruct.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:40 pm
Stewie,
For sure the RP3 can be rowed poorly like a boat. The idea was to create an ergo that simulates as close as possible how the masses move on the water. With good feedback from the power curve you can develop the right coordination over the drive. The recovery and how you use the momentums is another story. I agree with your points over the rush to the catch and I never said that I coach my rush to the catch to rowers or that I like it. This is the way I row but Ursula doesn't row like me and I coached her.
About Brandon, give me some credit for 6 weeks with 50 minutes a day- The goal was clear and he did 6:07.
I can show you video of National USA Team members rowing a lot worst than Brandon on the Concept 2.... And Brandon has never rowed on the water.
About my actions last year:
I made mistakes and I accept that. I had plenty of economical and personal life pressure that came to me early on the year and really made my life not easy at all.
I still believe that to win you need to do what is unconfortable and have a bigger reason to work harder and better than your competition.
Ursula had won too much after Slovenia and needed to start losing before it was too late and to close to the Olympics. Simple. This is not an excuse of what I did but for sure it can help her to get the job done. Now that she is in San Diego she is under US rowing coaching politics and I have no control of what happens with her or the other girls...
Failure in New Zealand can be the start of a stronger comeback to culminate at the Olympics. We will see how Ursula and Team USA move forward.... NSR1 and NSR 2 are a joke compared with what is waiting for the USA LW2x at worlds this year in Slovenia ....
Very few crews excell 2 years before the Olympics and medal at the Olympics. That normally doesn't happen in the LW if you look at past cycles.
I coach to win and this was my goal, to win Gold in London 2012 coaching the LW2x.
That all said I have to agree with you that many things could have been done better last year.
Thank you for your technical tips, I like them.
Carlos Dinares
For sure the RP3 can be rowed poorly like a boat. The idea was to create an ergo that simulates as close as possible how the masses move on the water. With good feedback from the power curve you can develop the right coordination over the drive. The recovery and how you use the momentums is another story. I agree with your points over the rush to the catch and I never said that I coach my rush to the catch to rowers or that I like it. This is the way I row but Ursula doesn't row like me and I coached her.
About Brandon, give me some credit for 6 weeks with 50 minutes a day- The goal was clear and he did 6:07.
I can show you video of National USA Team members rowing a lot worst than Brandon on the Concept 2.... And Brandon has never rowed on the water.
About my actions last year:
I made mistakes and I accept that. I had plenty of economical and personal life pressure that came to me early on the year and really made my life not easy at all.
I still believe that to win you need to do what is unconfortable and have a bigger reason to work harder and better than your competition.
Ursula had won too much after Slovenia and needed to start losing before it was too late and to close to the Olympics. Simple. This is not an excuse of what I did but for sure it can help her to get the job done. Now that she is in San Diego she is under US rowing coaching politics and I have no control of what happens with her or the other girls...
Failure in New Zealand can be the start of a stronger comeback to culminate at the Olympics. We will see how Ursula and Team USA move forward.... NSR1 and NSR 2 are a joke compared with what is waiting for the USA LW2x at worlds this year in Slovenia ....
Very few crews excell 2 years before the Olympics and medal at the Olympics. That normally doesn't happen in the LW if you look at past cycles.
I coach to win and this was my goal, to win Gold in London 2012 coaching the LW2x.
That all said I have to agree with you that many things could have been done better last year.
Thank you for your technical tips, I like them.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by lt.wolf on Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:24 pm
HMMM - I think Carlos or RP3 is going to have to cut me a check for advertising soon. 
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by Stewie Griffin Should Cox on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:37 am
carlos dinares wrote:We will see how Ursula and Team USA move forward.... NSR1 and NSR 2 are a joke compared with what is waiting for the USA LW2x at worlds this year in Slovenia
Given you completely underestimated the challenge of NZ and how the standard would rise from the World Cup you are in no position to be predictive Oracle to the challenges.
I am absolutely sure whoever runs this project and whoever is in the boat will be in no doubt of the challenges ahead.
I will say however I think NSR1 in Singles WILL be a world class race
They move forward from a position of finishing 8th in the Worlds. Until the crew races in Bled, no comparison can be made as we know that World Cup results can be exceptionally misleading.
What you need to do is work out how you get back in the mix. Because apart from your crappy strategic decision making and smothering intensity which can be attributed to a lack of actual experience at this level, you probably are one of the best Technical coaches for the boat and probably the best actually available.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by Long & Low on Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:13 pm
Stewie Griffin Should Cox wrote:carlos dinares wrote:NSR1 and NSR 2 are a joke
What you need to do is work out how you get back in the mix.
Good luck with that. Couple of tips if you are gonna try:
1. Try not to say things that other teammates might view as you calling them a joke.
2. Try not to do things that generate 42 pages of comments about a women's lightweight double. That might be a record for this Board and it is certainly more than I have heard about all the lightweight doubles for the last thirty years (combined)!
I can't wait for racing season. It feels like winter (and this thread) will never end.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:18 am
What I'm saying here and is pretty clear:
"The competition our athletes will find at NSR1 and NSR2 compared with what they will find at World this year won't the same at all"
This is the biggest reason I made Ursula double up last year at NSR1 and double up at Worlds. I knew that NSR1 will be easier than the International field and Worlds 2010 easier than the Olympics and I wanted us to learn on extreme difficulty.
If you want to understand that I'm calling the speed of some crews that show up at these races to make the National Team a Joke for the way they row, train and the speed they have, you can. For me to go to worlds and be last or 25 seconds slower than the winning crew is not correct. Teams should stay home and train until they have enough speed to represent with some competitive speed their country. The worst part of this situation is that those athletes don't know how slow they are or how poorly they are training.
Nobody is a joke and I have plenty of respect for ALL the rowers who try hard and dream.
The Speed is a JOKE!
Carlos Dinares
"The competition our athletes will find at NSR1 and NSR2 compared with what they will find at World this year won't the same at all"
This is the biggest reason I made Ursula double up last year at NSR1 and double up at Worlds. I knew that NSR1 will be easier than the International field and Worlds 2010 easier than the Olympics and I wanted us to learn on extreme difficulty.
If you want to understand that I'm calling the speed of some crews that show up at these races to make the National Team a Joke for the way they row, train and the speed they have, you can. For me to go to worlds and be last or 25 seconds slower than the winning crew is not correct. Teams should stay home and train until they have enough speed to represent with some competitive speed their country. The worst part of this situation is that those athletes don't know how slow they are or how poorly they are training.
Nobody is a joke and I have plenty of respect for ALL the rowers who try hard and dream.
The Speed is a JOKE!
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by Stewie Griffin Should Cox on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:33 am
carlos dinares wrote:"The competition our athletes will find at NSR1 and NSR2 compared with what they will find at World this year won't the same at all"
This is the biggest reason I made Ursula double up last year at NSR1 and double up at Worlds. I knew that NSR1 will be easier than the International field and Worlds 2010 easier than the Olympics and I wanted us to learn on extreme difficulty.
Carlos. Start thinking!! Engage brain before you spout crap.
1. Ursula LOST trials in the 1x.
2. NSR1 could contain Ursula, Sarbanis, Goldsack, Nichols, Hedstrom, Broughton (because I bet she is still training) Sager World Bronze medalist and others from the 2009 4x. If thats not World Class buddy I don't know what is.
Worlds 2010 may be easier than the Olympics sure, but it was still too tough to attempt doubling up with someone who needed to race an Olympic class final.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:02 pm
Stewie,
Ursula lost the semifinal at NSR1 after how many races? Please go back to the race results and check what Ursula did before this semifinal of the Open W1x and what the rest of competitors did. She still was able to win the LW1x final just after losing the semifinal of the W1x.
About all the rowers you mention, I have respect for all of them. I'm concern about....
- Greece coming back from Olympic failure and lots of experience winning Gold medals now. A very good coach and training system. Big government support.
- China coming back from Olympic failure. A very good coach and lots of money and very good system. Big government support.
- Germany coming back from a 4th place at the Olympics. Very good coach and very good system. Big government support.
- Canada coming back with a medallist rower. Good coaching and system too. Big government support.
- Australia coming back after Olympic failure. Good coaching and system too. Big government support.
- Italy coming back after bad results. Coach of the Gold medal crew 2008. Big government support.
- GB coming back after bad results. Good coach and system. Big government support.
- NZ. Good coach and system. Young athletes. Big government support.
And many others....
You are right Stewie I should be quiet and let things go.
Carlos Dinares
Ursula lost the semifinal at NSR1 after how many races? Please go back to the race results and check what Ursula did before this semifinal of the Open W1x and what the rest of competitors did. She still was able to win the LW1x final just after losing the semifinal of the W1x.
About all the rowers you mention, I have respect for all of them. I'm concern about....
- Greece coming back from Olympic failure and lots of experience winning Gold medals now. A very good coach and training system. Big government support.
- China coming back from Olympic failure. A very good coach and lots of money and very good system. Big government support.
- Germany coming back from a 4th place at the Olympics. Very good coach and very good system. Big government support.
- Canada coming back with a medallist rower. Good coaching and system too. Big government support.
- Australia coming back after Olympic failure. Good coaching and system too. Big government support.
- Italy coming back after bad results. Coach of the Gold medal crew 2008. Big government support.
- GB coming back after bad results. Good coach and system. Big government support.
- NZ. Good coach and system. Young athletes. Big government support.
And many others....
You are right Stewie I should be quiet and let things go.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by Stewie Griffin Should Cox on Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:23 pm
Carlos
I meant. The finals of the LIGHT 1X at Worlds Trials, Ursula LOST (or had you forgotton?) to Nichols and was lead by Sarbanis before she had her wrist issues. If you add Goldsack, and Hedstrom you probably have four athletes at least who could final the light single at the Worlds. With you coaching, Ursulas last two results were losing the LW1X World Trials and coming 8th at the Worlds in the Olympic event. I think you seem to have forgotten that.
Sure Ursula won NSR1, and Bled and look what happened. Frankly she was just faster that time of year and by worlds you had fried her. Simple. Everyone saw it coming.
You take this high ground and have this ridiculous theory she had to start losing (having never actually won anything of real note) and speak disparagingly about other crews other programs, how everyone does it wrong but YOU have the answer and what could happen if people do change but buddy you did no better. But you are oblivious you continue to spout rubbish on your site and thats why I strongly doubt your athletes will return.
Thanks for the overview of the LW women globally. Its never any different FYG. Its not what we were discussing but you are good at changing the subject.
You keep saying you made mistakes, and yet you keep pushing ideas that you believe to be true that were the mistake.
I'd say Bellingham will be a quiet place until you can truely accept what went wrong and who was responsible.
I meant. The finals of the LIGHT 1X at Worlds Trials, Ursula LOST (or had you forgotton?) to Nichols and was lead by Sarbanis before she had her wrist issues. If you add Goldsack, and Hedstrom you probably have four athletes at least who could final the light single at the Worlds. With you coaching, Ursulas last two results were losing the LW1X World Trials and coming 8th at the Worlds in the Olympic event. I think you seem to have forgotten that.
Sure Ursula won NSR1, and Bled and look what happened. Frankly she was just faster that time of year and by worlds you had fried her. Simple. Everyone saw it coming.
You take this high ground and have this ridiculous theory she had to start losing (having never actually won anything of real note) and speak disparagingly about other crews other programs, how everyone does it wrong but YOU have the answer and what could happen if people do change but buddy you did no better. But you are oblivious you continue to spout rubbish on your site and thats why I strongly doubt your athletes will return.
Thanks for the overview of the LW women globally. Its never any different FYG. Its not what we were discussing but you are good at changing the subject.
You keep saying you made mistakes, and yet you keep pushing ideas that you believe to be true that were the mistake.
I'd say Bellingham will be a quiet place until you can truely accept what went wrong and who was responsible.
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:45 pm
Stewie,
I mentioned NSR1 because that is what is coming and we were talking about. If you want to talk about Trials and Worlds you are right we didn't perform as we wanted.
About what went wrong. Many things went wrong and some were on my control and others not. Obviously a long year performing all the time didn't help. We needed to perform to keep going because we are not supported at all and to plan for the last race without winning the ones on the path wasn't a choice.
Stewie I agree with you. Bellingham is quiet and now is time for others to do the work. I'm sad because is a great lake and I'm excited to be part of this boat but there is little I can do at this moment more than be quiet and let things go.
I'm learning from this experience.
Good luck to everyone on the racing to come!
Carlos Dinares
I mentioned NSR1 because that is what is coming and we were talking about. If you want to talk about Trials and Worlds you are right we didn't perform as we wanted.
About what went wrong. Many things went wrong and some were on my control and others not. Obviously a long year performing all the time didn't help. We needed to perform to keep going because we are not supported at all and to plan for the last race without winning the ones on the path wasn't a choice.
Stewie I agree with you. Bellingham is quiet and now is time for others to do the work. I'm sad because is a great lake and I'm excited to be part of this boat but there is little I can do at this moment more than be quiet and let things go.
I'm learning from this experience.
Good luck to everyone on the racing to come!
Carlos Dinares
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Re: Ursula & Abby lw2x for USA
by carlos dinares on Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:57 pm
Wolf,
I think is time to close this Board and get into the new 2011 LW2x
Take care,
Carlos
I think is time to close this Board and get into the new 2011 LW2x
Take care,
Carlos
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